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04/26/2009

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jack whisner

circulator routes tend to have single limited purpose. as you state, routes perform better if they serve multiple purposes for many riders. in southeast Seattle, Route 39 not only connect neighborhoods with three LRT stations, but also with a hospital and SODO. Route 60 is also strong; it connects with the Beacon Hill station and the First Hill employment area. The proposal falls short in providing such poor service frequency to Route 39. how important are routes 7X, 34, 38 (a short route)? will the elected officials question the allocation of service subsidy to the Seattle Streetcar SLU Line?

Cascadian

Thanks for explaining the problem with circulators. As a resident of a Seattle suburb, I have wondered why a system of circulators in the city wouldn't work and your explanation is helpful.

The real problem with these routes is the low frequency, but that's a problem caused by both underfunding of the system and recent cuts because of the current recession's effect on transit revenue.

J

I hadn't thought about it that way before (the ridership issue). But it rather sounds like it's more a question of teaching riders to appreciate the virtues of circulators. I understand riders are resistant--but riders hate late buses, too. Surely they can learn that circulators can reduce this problem, and learn to use them effectively. Riders aren't stupid, but they may need lots of teaching to learn.

Multimodal Man

Good post. Another point to remember is that people don't like to travel in little circles. J's comment that it should be about training riders to appreciate circulators. Reliability is only one factor. Transit service also has to go where you want to go. If it takes four transfers on various circular paths, it doesn't matter how reliable the service is. Speed and access (going where people want to go) are very important.

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