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Aaron M. Renn

I'll have to at least read the executive summary. 500 pages is a bit daunting even for me to get though!

Alon Levy

Do you have a citation for the statement that Sydney's transit ridership hasn't grown? A few threads ago I gave a link to a travel to work survey done by the government, which states that Sydney's transit mode share has risen from 19% in the late 1990s to 24% today.

Alon Levy

More on topic: I haven't read the report yet - I started with the recommendations. I'm going to read the sections about what Sydney can learn from other cities soon.

Jarrett at HumanTransit.org

Alon

It's in Chapter 2 of our report (see link in post) bottom of page 74.  It looks like this is data kept and reported by UITP in Canberra.  It shows that total patronage in 2009 was up only 4% from the 1999 level.  This is all trips, so it may not track with mode share.

K

This is outstanding Jarrett. Congratualtions to the entire team involved. Any idea if Fairfax is considering sponsoring one for Melbourne? The Age has done well to cover transport issues in the city. A similar inquiry would make a lot of sense.

Jarrett at HumanTransit.org

Thanks, K.  As far as I know, this was driven by the Sydney Morning Herald in particular, rather than by Fairfax's corporate level.  You could certainly suggest the same thing to their peers at the Age.

Jase

God bless Fairfax! Without it this would be a shell of a country (refer Adelaide). They have always been the government watchdog. Now they are its public service too!

I had no idea they had the capacity to engage high-paid consultants for four months! They must be selling more click through ads on smh.com.au than i realised!

These look like great suggestions! I look forward to riding Sydney's PT with a smile before I grow old and die.

John

Interesting to see the local perspective on it. I was in Sydney for a week about two years ago and found the transit to be quite good (maybe that says something about the poor expectations of an American transit user?). I bought a Green Travelpass and was able to travel anywhere within two fare zones on any mode at no extra charge. I paid an incremental fare for a trip to the Blue Mountains. It was very convenient and easy. I guess they need to get that kind of convenience for the locals as well as the tourists, although it appears that is what the "MyMulti" pass does.

Jarrett

John. Yes, Sydney treats tourists much better than it treats locals! If you're here for several days, or if you commute every day, the TravelPass can simplify things. Unfortunately, if you just make spontaneous trips of varying lengths as part of a car-free life, there's no similar instrument.

Nathanael

"Sooner or later, some state government is going to implement most of these recommendations, because they are in line with what most similar cities around the world have found they need to do. "

Optimist! ;-)

Surely the state government could choose an utterly self-destructive, self-defeating, unpopular plan, be voted out, and have the subsequent government renege on its promises in order to commit to another self-destructive, self-defeating unpopular plan? And this could repeat until the total collapse of the city as people and businesses flee? Hey, it's happened elsewhere.

Hopefully the release of this carefully researched report, with backing and publicity from a major newspaper, will help prevent that, by helping state government members and would-be members know what's effective and popular. :-)

Jeffrey Bridgman

I was thinking about asking you about transportation in Syndey... seems like my question (and any other question I could possibly come up with) is answered!

Doogie Howsah

Can you come make these recommendations to San Francisco? Sydney's problems (completely non-integrated and often redundant services, for instance) sound awfully familiar...

Richard

Jase: Perhaps the consultants weren't highly paid, even if they deserve to be.

I’d like to see these (and certainly future) reports formatted to landscape so it is easier to read full pages on a computer. And ePub version would be nice too as the issues require careful study (while commuting?). Having read the double deck v single deck carriage chapter, I was blown away by how brilliant was the original design of the double deck trains (as amended) for Sydney travel patterns.

I was concerned by the extent to which politicians have effectively mandated “metros” and bullied public servants and consultants to sing their praises in harmony when they are clearly inappropriate. We have lots of eggs in Town Hall station when it come to capacity issues but this seems to have been ignored by Nathan. How much other policy work in other areas is done this way? So much for frank and fearless advice from Public Servants.

Eric Hughes

Cabs are still a major transport artery in town. some have even evolved into entertainment zones. Like the Cabbie-oke cabs that have started hosting non-singers and amateurs on karaoke for their official YouTube channel. funny eh??

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